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Lombarda A.R guided from witch plane?

Post by THEpictogram » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:18 pm

Hello am sorry am looking for an answer too my question.
Sorry for my bad English

In the page of the Lombarda A.R in the test flight it’s explained that its radio command but in the test flight was it radio command and if yes to know witch plane would have been use and knowing the task he had was that a special version of the plane of standard version with radio modification
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Wikipedia Italy Aeronautica Lombarda A.R. Article

Post by RetiredInKalifornia » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:49 pm

THEpictogram wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:18 pm
Hello am sorry am looking for an answer too my question.
Sorry for my bad English

In the page of the Lombarda A.R in the test flight it’s explained that its radio command but in the test flight was it radio command and if yes to know witch plane would have been use and knowing the task he had was that a special version of the plane of standard version with radio modification
All redy thanks a lot for the replies
Aeronautica Lombarda A.R.

"The project consisted of the adaptation of the Savoia-Marchetti SM79 three-engined bombers which had reached the limit of their operational life by equipping them with a remote radio control system which, normally conducted in the operational area by the crew, were abandoned by the members via parachute launch and piloted remotely by a second aircraft following it, designated 'P' (Pilot) aircraft."

LF Models 1/72 Aeronautica Lombarda A.R. Italian Mistel by Richard Mendes

"The Aeronautica Lombarda A.R., (Assalto Radioguidato – Radio Guided Assault aircraft) was an inflight piloted then remotely radio-controlled land-based bomber (flying-bomb). Jointly designed by Ermenegildo Preti (1918-1986) and Stelio Frati (1919-2010) to meet the Regia Aeronautica Italia’s (RAI’s) need for a low cost aircraft capable of operating within enemy controlled airspace to attack Allied naval ships and land fortifications A.R. development ended with the September 8, 1943 Italian Armistice after two aircraft had been built along with four incomplete airframes which were seized by the Germans and subsequently destroyed except for the prototype whose fate is unknown."

"The genesis of the A.R. lay in a Regia Marina requirement that was subsequently answered by the RAI General Ferdinando Raffaelli (1899-1981) who suggested the ARP program (Aereo Radio Pilotato - Radio Guided Aircraft) which used worn-out Savoia-Marchetti S.79s that were remotely controlled and laden with high explosives, flying them initially with aircrews who bailed out, a radio controller in a second aircraft taking over and guiding the plane to its target. On August 12, 1942 an ARP S.79 guided by a CANT Z.1007bis equipped with a radio controller and escorted by five FIAT G.50s was launched against Operation Pedestal (a heavily escorted relief convoy destined to Malta), the S.79's pilot bailing out after setting it on course to hit the convoy when the S.79's radio malfunctioned, cruising uncontrolled till crashing into Mount Klenchela in Algeria. In spite of this set-back the RAI pressed ahead with the ARP program shifting focus to purpose-built aircraft, timely responding Cantù Como-based Aeronautica Lombarda designed the A.R., building one prototype plus five pre-production aircraft procured in a 4.2 million lira RAI contract signed during November 1942. The planes were assigned the serial numbers (Matricole Militare) MM.75576-75581."

"The mostly wood Aeronautica Lombarda A.R. single-engine monoplane was a marvel of design simplicity; the ovoid section wood-frame fuselage covered with plywood panels included a fully enclosed cockpit accessible through a jettisonable bottom trapdoor. An internally mounted 700 liter fuel tank along with attachment points for two un-finned 1000kg bombs positioned near the aircraft’s center of gravity behind and below the cockpit was fully enclosed with detachable plywood panels. The trapezoidal wood plank wings covered in plywood sheeting and equipped with fabric-covered ailerons were set at high positive dihedral to ensure the greatest possible flight stability. Operational A.R.s were to be powered by 1000hp FIAT A.80 radials from decommissioned FIAT BR.20s in simplified NACA section cowlings with three-blade propellers; detachable and reusable multi-wheeled springed trollies similar to those on early production Luftwaffe Arado Ar.234s were to be used for take-off."

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Re: Lombarda A.R guided from witch plane?

Post by Editor » Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:57 pm

Adding to what Richard posted (Richard built the AR model on this site), only a single prototype was built and was not completed to specifications. The prototype having fixed landing gear while the (pre)production models were to be equipped with detachable reusable trolleys (on take-off) and were to be powered by old BR.20 engines - you can see how cost was an important factor at this point in the war and nothing was going to waste. The AR was only finished to the point of test flying the prototype with pilot but was not tested remotely. The AR was an early example of a unmanned aerial system (drone), a remote piloted aircraft. The pilot (control) aircraft would have been a CANT Z.1007bis with the bombardier guiding the AR to its target. You might also want to email Ladislav at LF Models and ask him if has any additional information:

lfmodels@lfmodels.com

Here's a link to Richard's build:
LF Models 1/72 Aeronautica Lombarda A.R. by Richard Mendes

In the title above it says Italian Mistel but strictly speaking it was not although the RA had on the drawing board several such systems (see one below), the AR would have been far more accurate had it gone into service (all these projects were halted at the Armistice). The most famous of these types of weapons in WWII was the German Fritz X anti-ship glide bomb controlled by a Do.217.


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Re: Lombarda A.R guided from witch plane?

Post by THEpictogram » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:18 am

Thanks a lot for the information
I faught that it was was 2 build from this page :
Even know during time they would be scrap I fing
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Re: Lombarda A.R guided from witch plane?

Post by Editor » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:18 am

There were 6 planes ordered in various states of completion at the Armistice.

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