Macchi Mc.205V Veltro

guglielminauk · Post by **guglielminauk** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:17 pm

I am building a PCM Macchi 205V, but I would like a scheme different from the usual Smoke rings., I came across several pictures of the 205N
Orione in Verde Oliva Scuro2, but so far none of the 205V Veltro in a
similar scheme.
Was the 205V ever camuflaged in Verde Oliva Scuro Metropolitan scheme?Comments and/or pictures would be appreciated.
Thanks
Guglielminauk

Stefano · Post by **Stefano** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:05 pm

As far as we know, operational Veltros wore just three camo schemes: typical Macchi smoke rings of dark olive green over light hazelnut background (RA and early ANR), a herringbone stripes scheme of the same colours (just for a few by VI serie in ANR) and RLM 74/75/76 Luftwaffe scheme in ANR.
If you don't like smoke rings nor LW camo, I suggest you the newly-discovered herringbone scheme.

Stefano

Mirek Riha · Post by **Mirek Riha** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:32 pm

Stefano wrote:As far as we know, operational Veltros wore just three camo schemes: typical Macchi smoke rings of dark olive green over light hazelnut background (RA and early ANR), a herringbone stripes scheme of the same colours (just for a few by VI serie in ANR) and RLM 74/75/76 Luftwaffe scheme in ANR.
If you don't like smoke rings nor LW camo, I suggest you the newly-discovered herringbone scheme.

Stefano

In teh book of ANR camo is Macch 205 in "mixed" schema (LW and herringbone) number 5-3, only known Mc 205 (for me) in pure herringbone schema is 22-2 (source the same book). Metrepolitan schema had first prototype of Mc 205

Mirek

Gabriele Luciani · Post by **Gabriele Luciani** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:17 am

guglielminauk wrote:I am building a PCM Macchi 205V, but I would like a scheme different from the usual Smoke rings., I came across several pictures of the 205N
Orione in Verde Oliva Scuro2, but so far none of the 205V Veltro in a
similar scheme.
Was the 205V ever camuflaged in Verde Oliva Scuro Metropolitan scheme?Comments and/or pictures would be appreciated.
Thanks
Guglielminauk

If I do not remember wrong there was only the fisrt prototype of 205 V with the camouflage in Verde Oliva scuro 2...In a recent book by Nicola Malizia about the Macchi fighter family, there is a picture of a cobelligerant 205, during the last months os 2° word war, that may seen repainted in an uniform color, like Verde Oliva Scuro. If you need, in the afternoon, I will see the book and tomorrow can be more precises...

guglielminauk · Post by **guglielminauk** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:10 am

Dear Gabriele Luciani,

Thank you for your comments, I do not have the book you mentioned
and I would appreciate if you could find out the relevant informations
At the moment I am struggling fitting the cockpit on (I was warned!)
I might post some picture of the work so far if I sort out my camera.
Grazie mille
Guglielminauk

GAJouette · Post by **GAJouette** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:17 am

Guglielminauk,
It's alway a great day when I read that someone else is building in my favorite scale.I would suggest you read over Ian Robertson's artical on the Macchi 202 and Maurizio Di Terlizzi's on the Macchi 205. Both are posted on Hyperscale.com and contain very good construction tips for the PCM Macchi kits.I'm looking forward to seeing photos posted of your Macchi 205 project. As I'm sure you know there are some fit quirks involved with the PCM 205 and 202 as well but nothing that is too difficult to do.
As for what paint scheme to use ,personally I like the Herringbone scheme myself.
Regards,
Gregory Jouette

guglielminauk · Post by **guglielminauk** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:51 am

Dear Gregory Jouette

Thank you for your comments, I have read both the articles you mentioned
and done what Ian Robertson suggested; i.e. thinned down the sides
so that I can almost see through it and the fit is getting better.
The reason why I would like a dark olive green scheme is because I have
done the Re 2005 (Flying Machines) and two Fiat G.55 (RCR resin and
Special Hobby) in 1/48 and they do look very smart in a weathered and shaded olive green alongside an Hasegawa Mc.205V in smoke rings.
I have now moved to 1/32 and just finished a PCM Mc.200, working on the 205V with Re 2005 and Fiat G55 to follow.
If I could not find any 205 in Olive green I will probably settle for a post war natural metal finish (was it natural metal or silver paint ?)
Decisions, decisions

Guglielminauk

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:57 pm

Hello,

If you're looking for a scheme other than an Italian one, the C.205 was used by the Egyptians against the Israelis. They were painted in a scheme very similar to the RAF's desert scheme.

Best wishes,
Brendan

guglielminauk · Post by **guglielminauk** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:08 pm

Thank you Brendan,
I am familiar with all the different finishes of the 205V Veltro having
researched all the books and websites I could think of but I was just intrigued I could not find one in what should have been the standard finish for the period ( Metropolitan finish as sported by the contemporary Re2005 and Fiat G.55)
It looks like that none apart for the prototype was so finished and unless
someone comes up with my preferred option I will settle for a heavily
retouched cobelligerant example .The Re2005 will be in Regia Aeronautica colours and the G55 in ANR
Guglielminauk

Capitano · Post by **Capitano** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:50 pm

I know this isn't a poll but I kind of like the RLM 74/75/76 scheme.

Gabriele Luciani · Post by **Gabriele Luciani** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:26 am

well dear friends, only the first prototype of 205 V was in overall gren (verde oliva scuro = Humbrol 92) for the upper superface; two of the last Veltro in service with italian air force afther the 2° word war and used by 155° gruppo of 51° stormo, was repainted in a overlall light dark green with a great withe number (es. "42") in the fouselage afther the tri-colors roundel. Of these warplanes there is a pic on the book of Nicola Malizia, Macchi C.200-202-205 Bagliori di Guerra" from IBM Editore of Rome.

guglielminauk · Post by **guglielminauk** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:49 am

Grazie Luciano,

Questo e' proprio quello che cercavo!! Non ho il libro che tu menzioni
ma se non ti disturba troppo ti pregherei di inviarmi uno scan della pagina
in questione via Email.
Il mio Email e':
paolo.davanzo@sky.com

Paolo davanzo
Guglielminauk

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