Putting together SCW Breda 65 codes

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Putting together SCW Breda 65 codes

Post by cduckworth » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:37 am

With Special Hobby releasing their Breda 65 A80 in SCW markings I decided to try and put together a list of fuselage codes for the K14 and A80 versions. The only A80 I was able to identify through a photo was 16-35. Lots of box art errors and artist’s profiles on the web. Anyone know the breakdown of how many K14 and A80 were in the 23 total delivered? I also found it interesting that 16-41 was a K14 as it seems out of sequence with the others.

Breda 65 fuselage codes
23 sent to Spain.
16-1 K14 photograph verification
16-11 K14 photograph verification (16-11 identified as A80 in Wings over Spain book photo of crashed Breda 65 - unable to see engine cowling- caption is wrong.)
16-12 K14 photograph verification (16-18 K14 Fanali’s aircraft source Vince Tassone)
16-23 K14 photograph verification
16-35 A80 photograph verification
16-41 K14 photograph verification


Artist profiles or models
16-3 K14 artist profile
16-10 K14 two different artist profiles
16-11 A80 incorrect AZ Model box art
16-11 K14 artist profile
16-12 A80 incorrect Warrior resin kit
16-12 A80 Air War over Spain book. Incorrect profiled
16-18 K14 artist profile in Ali D’Italia Breda 65 book
16-39 K14 artist profile
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Re: Putting together SCW Breda 65 codes

Post by cduckworth » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:47 am

Here’s the K14 16-41 image
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Re: Putting together SCW Breda 65 codes

Post by Editor » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:24 pm

Good list. It would also be nice to add the MMs to each aircraft.

Here are the production numbers:

Prototipo:
MM.325

Serie I:
K14 (Breda): MM.75081-75161 - 80 aircraft

Serie II:
A80 (Breda): MM.75163-75242 - 79 aircraft
A80 (Caproni-Vizzola): MM.75243-75281 - 38 aircraft
A80 (Caproni-Vizzola): MM.75282-75299 - 17 aircraft

Just a note, there are two rear-side photos of Fanali's machine 16-18 (K14), one with him next to the plane. One of the photos is in Paolo Carli's article. The profile of 16-18 is by the late Angelo Brioschi. Fanali (an Italian Ace later on in WWII) also flew 65-23 (K14) in combat. 65a Sq. Ba.65s should also be added to the list above for completeness.

For those of you interested, this is the box art of the kit in question:



There are decals for two subjects, 16-18 and 16-35, as on the box art. The thing to note first is that 16-18 was a K14, not an A80 as in the box art/kit. Also the camo for 16-35 is not accurate, use the photo Charlie provided above. And finally the nomenclature on the box is slightly inaccurate, "Breda 65A-80" was the Breda 65 A80; A80 denoting the name of the engine installation.

From a modelers point of view if you're looking to build an accurate SCW Ba.65 using this kit, build 16-35 and note the camo in the photo above.

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Re: Putting together SCW Breda 65 codes

Post by cduckworth » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:32 pm

Is there any clearer images or profiles of what 16-35 camouflage should look like?

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